although the current focus is spt-claude-code, i anticipate many future projects like it. therefore i'd like to 1. build a reusable workflow template based on spt-core's workflow, and 2. use the spt-claude-code project as its first consumer. that template should also include the spt-core procedures for releases, release changelog, and published docs (though with docs reframed to be same-repository, not separate). -agee with scaffolding as meta-process. -not that legacy spt "parity" will NOT be 1:1 exactly. there are some concepts and infrequently used skills/commands in legacy that should not survive the port.


i'm reading the 0.6.0 changelog. please remove "(ADR-0008’s source mechanism is superseded by ADR-0019)". that references project lingo that spt-core's end user does not care about.


agree with (A). the toml and/or INTANTIATE.md need instruction on how to acquire and use traceable-reqs. same about the grill-with-docs skill. i will be the sole user of this template, so no need to worry about private repo accessibility. -note that CLAUDE.md is claude-code-specific. other harnesses would use AGENTS.md. point to fact check: does claude code also feed AGENTS.md into agent context? -name for the template: `experimplate`.


-agree with your rec, with one strong distinction: **`spt-claude-code` will be spt-core's first casual-end-user entrypoint.** spt-core's target "end user" is devs who build shells and harness adapters. but it's designed to be *used* by anyone, in any system that delivers what they need, mostly-invisibly. because of this, spt-claude-code must be published as a claude code plugin on the `SaberMage/cplugs` marketplace, just like legacy spt is today. -in the same vein, spt-claude-code invisibly becomes an **spt-core installer** for its casual end users who don't already use spt-core. this is the intended path for all casual-user-facing harness adapters and shell adapters. -proposal: by way of spt-core's inbuilt adapter updates framework, the spt-claude-code marketplace plugin should be more of a skeleton plugin which installs spt-core, then through spt-core, installs the latest actual bulk of spt-claude-code. i'm only a bit trepidatious of this approach because of how claude's plugin system tends to reject any external modification to plugin files (marks them orphaned, then the plugin no longer works). so that approach would mean installing skills globally rather than as part of the plugin. but the plugin is still good for discovery. -also need to discuss how ccs gets worked into all this. is it just an adapter profile under spt-claude-code that users are left to create for themselves? --- agreed about drop GH runners. but if GH runners are fully autonomous with no LLM involvement, can't this be as well? consider a more novel approach, i.e. the CI framework leverages legacy spt to send the responsible agent updates on CI progress.


i'm noticing that none of the changelogs from 0.5.0 or 0.6.0 mention `spt rc`. wasn't that part of M5? are there any other feature adds or changes that were missed during those milestone publications?


`spt rc` was meant to be the CLI interface for remotely tapping into endpoint PTY. it should be in CONTEXT.md or milestone plans somewhere


how many unbuilt milestones are there? i thought nothing was roadmapped after M6


can ignore the M8 nounification. it's history + no end users to witness it.


agree with ccs as profile and fllback wording, agree with hybrid. note that ccs also has a different i.e. `~/.ccs` logs dir per ccs profile. -for the skeleton plugin, note that spt-claude-code can use the adapter strings system to deliver skill instructions that live in the adapter. so its UserPromptSubmit hook detects i.e. `/spt:send`-->injects the instructions for that skill as additionalContext. then the plugin's skill .md files themselves can stay skeletons, rarely needing updates from the marketplace. agree? any suggestions? -there will need to be an `/spt:setup` skill, as most end users will already be running an agent session when they install the plugin for the first time (no SessionStart hook fire in sight). -said skill should: 1. generate an endpoint launcher (.bat & .sh?) at the project root so the user can simply call something like `cc` or `cc <endpoint-id>` to fire up an endpoint or hook into an active endpoint. this is "capsule style" (the name of an unbuilt legacy spt milestone. its plans still exist in the sister project.) 2. offer to add the launchers to .gitignore 3. also offer to create the user's first spt-core subnet. would be enabled by way of this idea: [Image #2] 4. direct the agent to offer different paths if spt-core is already installed (setup a new subnet? join a subnet? etc.) -- lmk any other paths we should consider -something to discuss: how will users learn when `spt-claude-code` has an update if the updates are rarely to the plugin itself? -a thought, too: the update path for it should include both file-pull AND a cautionary `claude plugin update`, just to ensure both are synced. --- already said i agree with your ccs point and hybrid rec


a note about "Adapter-strings deliver skill instructions" -- if it doesn't already exist, perhaps we should slate a complimentary spt-core feature add: adapter strings can, in addition to being raw strings stored within the adapter manifest, point to FILES instead of inline strings. that way, the adapter string fetch can return long text bodies without the string bloating the adapter manifest. would need a standardized per-adapter auxilary file storage location... unless that already exists. --- agree with most points about the subnet commands, but note that subnet creation and join surface a QR code for the user to store the TOTP seed. so subnet create should still spawn a window for the user to see the QR code. -re: "4. [...] join subnet / show join-code / add this machine to existing subnet" aren't join subnet and "add this machine to existing subnet" the same thing? lol. 5. agree. 6. agree. 7. agree. also offer to install ccs + a one-sentence ccs value prop, if it isn't installed. 8. doesn't psyche sync automatically happen across subnets? or are you talking about the optional git-backup-angle. the latter can be deferred. 9. agree. -all setup paths in v1 except 8 and 9, as the others are all primary features of spt-core + i am using ccs for your session right now, so this machine needs it. --- note that we've touched on a few things that need to be roadmapped for spt-core. they should probably be rolled into M12, as `spt rc` is one of the core value props for spt-core. let's not forget to record them properly, and arrange their construction promptly given spt-claude-code will rely on them. --- skill-body-as-fetch-stub: VETOED. this adds terminal noise + time for the agent to fetch and process it. an extra tool call, too. i'm pretty confident from all my work on legacy spt that UPS *can* pick up slash commands. especially given that claude code recognizes (highlights) them anywhere within the text entry field, and is not strict about what comes after them. --- agree with your points about `cc` launcher. --- DROP: agree. -TRANSFORM: agree. -KEEP: `/signoff`-->only functional under the harness-hosted mode... i think? although i guess, signoff triggered in spt-hosted mode would also cause endpoint shutdown-->the user is booted out of endpoint PTY and back to terminal. does that sound right? -what is the purpose of `/revive` in the context of spt-core? in legacy, it was to recover from broken states like orphaned psyche or missing listener poll. i'm not sure it makes sense over just `/live`. or is there a meaningful distinction? maybe it's still helpful under harness-hosted mode? -what would `/clear-psyche` do under spt-core? honestly, i've never used this skill/command, and imo the equivalent is just deleting and endpoint and building a new one. -`/force-stop` is another where it only makes sense in harness-hosted mode... right? in spt-hosted mode, that'd be more like a `/self-stop` or a `/endpoint-shutdown`. -`/whoami` can be dropped, as the equivalent has been baked into the `spt endpoint list` feature. it shows the calling endpoint's perch distinctively at the top... RIGHT? i'm checking now, and it looks like spt-core still has a `spt whoami` feature. but i swear we planned its obsolescence in core. `spt endpoint list` provides the same function while having more utility. --- DECIDE: `/fork` only really works in the harness-hosted mode. i think forking is a first-class offering of the spt CLI's id picker... which uh... does it even exist yet? i'm checking through all the CLI `--help` listings, and i don't see *anything* to facilitate a user initializing an spt-hosted endpoint bringup with harness PTY access. does it even exist yet? surely it is detailed in CONTEXT.md? */worried* -amend-signoff is more or less deprecated, can be foregone. `/signoff` functions the same way under harness-hosted mode today, because it just writes a file. only difference is when that file is consumed. --- ADD: -setup, agree. -version, agree. -subnet skills, agree. -agree with all.


join subnet / show join-code / add this machine to existing subnet


-M12 framing confirmed. -`spt rc` is the command for connecting to an spt-hosted PTY. works cross-node. already slated for M12. -whoami being in the hot path is fine. but it should be changed to just be an alias for `spt endpoint list` + the whoami-equivalent output in that command should include the `spt endpoint description` for Self's endpoint. -two new drops confirmed. --- Q7: veto your rec, and here's why: while legacy spt parity was stated to be the v1 acceptance, it has always had this caveat in my mind (and possibly not vocalized until now): because spt-core's central value prop is the networking + PTY ownership, the true v1 req is legacy parity AND proof of the cross-subnet features. so local PTY attach + the i.e. `spt endpoint run` picker flow are very much mandatory for v1 acceptance. so we need to roll the full-fat M12 with todlando after this grill, and before perri begins work on `spt-claude-code`. --- `spt endpoint run` looks something like: -layer 1 "What kind of endpoint? [Create new|Pick existing]" -layer 2@create-new: "Choose your harness adapter for this endpoint: <list available adapters, their profiles tree-nested>" -layer 3@create-new: "Enter an endpoint id. Alphanumeric + hyphen + underscore only."-->start endpoint -layer 2@pick-existing: "Available endpoints:" left/right picks categor-->one of [<dir-name> project|Local node|Subnet]. up/down selects endpoint. `project` endpoints grouped by local/subnet N/subnet M/etc. `local` endpoints grouped by project names. `subnet` endpoints grouped by subnet:node. endpoints sorted alphabetically within their groupings. have colored squares behind them to indicate online [green]/offline [gray hollow]/already attached [blue]. visually, there is a right-half description section, wherein the highlighted endpoint's 1. harness adapter:profile, 2. project history list (newest->oldset), and 3. `spt endpoint description` are featured. -layer 3@pick-existing: "Confirm selection" <endpoint id>\n<endpoint status online|offline|attached> • <subnet>:<node>(if not local, else "LOCAL")\n<endpoint harness adapter:profile>\n"Project history: "<comma-separated projects list>\n<endpoint description>. options "[Attach now|Start now|View now]" per status-->start endpoint, "Instantiate locally" if remote-->layer 2@create-new-->start endpoint, "Change harness adapter" if offline-->layer 2@create-new-->start endpoint, "Fork endpoint"-->layer 2@create-new-->layer 3@create-new-->start endpoint. --- i think that covers the full picker flow. open to suggestions. the visual inspiration for the picker is matt pocock's skill installer. we should inspect its source code to achieve a similar feel: https://github.com/mattpocock/skills


some more notes about `spt endpoint run`: 1. it needs flags for non-interactive launches in case the user wants to build an i.e. `cc-doyle` shortcut. 2. on the "pick existing" path, there needs to be one more option at the end for **offline endpoints**: "Resume from history". uses the per-endpoint session id logging + the adapter manifest's "resume" declaration to enable the user to pick from any of that agent's previous sessions. each option should be titled a combination of <project name> @ <last-log-message-timestamp> (...<session-id-last-five-characters>) --- picker suggestions: 1. agree. 2. agree. 3. confirm and agree. attached agents should also offer an exclusive "Boot <attached node name> and attach" option. keybind is great for PCs, but could result in accidental input on a phone (i'm inferring a theoretical future smartphone PTY app). --- Q8: 1. agree, though spt-core's docs CSS/page layout/styling is strong and preferred to transfer across projects. 2. yes, exactly --- agree with all.


"Boot \<attached node name\> and attach"-->please change "Boot" to "Kick". better semantics. -one more addition to `spt endpoint run` - all the options sets which live just before endpoint-start should also offer an "s" keybind for "New cc-<id> shortcut" (if a matching filename doesn't exist, else "Update cc-<id> shortcut") which builds the e.g. `cc-doyle` shortcut with baked flags at project root. --- Q9: agree with rec. just note that the `$OWL send` binary location mechanism needs to flexibly discover the binary within the necessary `~/.claude/` or `~/.ccs/` plugins folder, since its location changes per version. i don't *anticipate* building anymore changes into legacy spt, but... just in case. --- Q10: full agree. Q11: agree. Q12: yes, agree. --- commit the files.


please write the JIT plan for M12 first, then handoff execution to todlando. THEN you can plan experimplate and /commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session after that


bruh, you put "todlando" after the reply-to flag. that means your send target was yourself. todlando never got it.


please write the perri handoff now while it's fresh in your context. just don't message them about it yet.


please change the project's commit trailer to be "Co-authored by: <your live agent name>"


proceed with W1.5 next steps. first verify the plan with doyle


/commune with experimplate immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


write the JIT plan for W2, verify it with doyle, execute on their greenlight


commit as needed to keep code history tidy.


what was deferred and/or changed from the original plan and why?


attached status + kick-attach, please instruct todlando to build the necessary surface and wire op/whatever else, once W2 is complete, then come back to add those features. -question: can scripts `cc.ps1` or `cc.sh` be run just by entering `cc` into the terminal? or would they need to be binaries to accomplish that. and if not .ps1, what about .bat?


oh, i just realized something. choosing "cc" as the filename infers "claude code," but this is raw spt-core we're talking about. needs to be harness-agnostic. so question: if we do "spt", would that overrule/first-resolve the spt-core-binary-on-path `spt` if there's a local script of same name in the cwd? if so, `spt.cmd` and linux `spt` would be ideal, and then just have it so if any arguements are passed, that shortcut forward to the spt-core binary. then the per-agent shortcuts would be i.e. `spt-doyle.cmd`


ok here's an idea then. `spt` bare binary run-->alias for `spt endpoint run`. right now it just prints help, but that's what `spt [--]help` is for. then there's never a need to create a bare `spt.cmd` in the project dir, users can just make `spt` muscle memory for every project.


given the "shortcut adapter override" is a new adapter manifest element (right?), we should update the adapter integration checklist in the docs.


by [harness] integration checklist, i meant the one in the public docs too: https://sabermage.github.io/spt-releases/harness-contract/integration-checklist.html


tiny objective for you: add an UNDOCUMENTED `spt spt` easter egg command. it should stdout simply "Sentience Pocket Transacter". -it shouldn't show up in help -it can be in the next changelog, but keep it vague i.e. "`spt spt` - ???"


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


you can handle the next part yourself. flash, run steamvr. the addons are already enabled. you'll know it's wedged if the MCU becomes unresponsive


there was a design choice, i think recorded in CONTEXT.md, where we said co-existing PTY attachments after the 1st will have no control, only view. that means the PTY dimensions are driven by the first attacher, and the others must letter box it if dimensional ratio is mismatched.


the plan should include updating the picker to be in step with the broker changes. does it?


the brain needs to be able to update without kicking operators from the brokers they're attached to


message doyle for their gate and greenlight


when you greenlight perri, be sure to have them touch base with you for any spt-core bugs they might encounter.


merge m12 + publish it. deployah is the incumbent signer


why don't linux and windows run in parallel?


kitsubito has a slower processor. so if it's responsible for building, that might be why it takes so much longer. would it be possible for this machine to build the linux test suite, then pass it to kitsubito over ssh/sftp?


estimate the time it should be done by, then set an alarm for yourself


M12 is nearly published, but build times are taking awhile. i think 0.6.0 is a good enough baseline for perri to build on. go ahead and hand off to them


do they have the info they need to understand how to publish to cplugs? the steps are in claude_skill_owl's DEPLOY.md, fwiw


remember, it's not spt-core's job to cater to any specific harness. it's up to the adapter dev to format spt-core's output in a way that suits the target harness.


be sure to ground any spt-core completeness questions in CONTEXT.md and the ADRs. it's been quite thoroughly planned out at this point. ignoring those would be problematic.


aside from bumping the timeout, also make those timing improvements to linux CI. it really shouldn't take this long when windows is so much faster at steps that don't involve building.


we can cancel the release run. i'm not willing to wait 50 minutes for one release when we could use that time to speed up all future releases now.


estimate the eta and set an alarm for yourself


1. it was mis-elevated during the port. 2. ok, yes indeed. --- Q2: (B) agreed. yes, REPLY_TO is internal scaffolding to delete.


part of the same mis-elevation. spt-core never expected/mandated/required interop compat with legacy spt. -agree with your rec.


idk why you didn't do that in the first place. sigh. --- ci status?


you're conflating perri and todlando. perri is on spt-claude-code. todlando is the spt-core executor. --- perri has stalled. please check on her and push her to keep moving forward with spt-claude-code


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


it depends on what she's doing with the `claude -p` session. if she's running legacy spt *skills* in it, then the agent in that session is going to try and take down her perch unless she tells it to use a name different from hers.


you suppled doyle as the reply-to. resend it properly.


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


/spt:commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


perri stopped again. whenever she reports in, please respond to ensure she intends to keep going + her next plan


in spt-core, please commit your changes to various docs from this session


the v0.7.0 publish should be ready. please us the runbook to check CI completion status, then finish the release


you didn't send your message to todlando, you sent it to yourself. whatever comes after the --reply-to flag is the name for the reply to field, not the destination


`spt update apply` shows this message and i don't understand why. it's from the public 0.7.0 build. i don't think it should be there. if you agree, please have todlando remove it. [Image #1]


there should be no "trial" in a public release. spt-core releases passed CI. this is internal terminology on an end-user facing surface, and it will just confuse an end user. the only thing that comes after those lines on a successful install is the `Changelog: <url>` line. Then it exits. not ok. --- it needs to confidently indicate update applied, and nothing else. again, it's not like we're rolling out untested code. and if there IS an issue, users will simply encounter it and bug report.


please make the `shortcut_basename=cc`. -let doyle know about your findings so he can ensure the official docs gaps are covered. --- /commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


please pack in the docs-completeness fixes perri raised for your `Update-msg fix`, since it's a smaller change anyway


perri has another potential docs update needed, coming thru the pipeline.


ignore, proceed. she messaged you already


be sure not to put milestone/wave references into the public-facing docs. that's internal info, not for dev users.


be sure not to put milestone/wave references into the public-facing docs. that's internal info, not for dev users. they should see version numbers


on 1: you already proved this in a previous session. iirc the results were recorded in the docs here somewhere. but tl;dr yes, CC UserPromptSubmit DOES fire on slash commands.


steamvr is running but there's no picture on the hmd displays. might be wedged.


confirmed wedge. displays are stuck on + dark, no picture


! spt update fetch && spt update apply && spt --version


/commune with immediate next steps (M11) and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


write the M11 JIT plan, then verify it with doyle. proceed to execution after his greenlight


some of M11 may also be described in CONTEXT.md


proceed with next steps. if you have any questions or roadblocks, clear them with doyle. when you finish the current task, notify doyle and proceed to the next.


as a reminder, perri is on a separate project (spt-claude-code) which is a harness adapter meant to be built entirely independently of spt-core source. if she has a question about impl, she's either not reading the public docs closely enough, or there is a gap in the docs. your job is to identify which.


"Branch docs/bind-intrinsic-auth-trust-model awaits merge to main" go ahead and merge. --- feel free to start yourself a worktree if you want.


if you aren't too far into building the extractor, you might want to switch to rust. fewer opportunities for latent bugs + it's what the legacy spt (which this project is based on) used. so it would just be good consistency.


excerpt from perri: "Probe also confirmed a real finding first: digest-proof --sample substitutes only {source} — it hard-fails on {session_id} (and
  {home}), even though the published example command uses --session {session_id}. Logging that for doyle."


hold on. you resolved that by checking the source code. what about the docs?


question: api listen is only for harness-hosted mode, right? how/when does spt-hosted moded spawn psyche? --- actually, none of this quite makes sense. the poll listener should have nothing to do with the psyche. poll listener is for messaging. psyche should live on a completely separate thread within the brain, and correlates to an active LiveAgent endpoint. please clarify.


why is psyche tied to the listener if M3 was executed many days ago? that doesn't make sense. it needs reconciled. --- fix the docs. update perri. REQ-DAEMON-1 needs a JIT plan if it truly isn't wired. it should roll into M11.


can't you just grep the codebase for `REQ-DAEMON-1`? if it's passing traceability and has 'impl', then that's the quickest way to find its self-evident code. maybe note that for the future.


that's too verbose about what `listen` isn't. it doesn't need to be in the public docs. just exclude anything irrelevant to listen. users won't assume otherwise.


commit the plan, dispatch to todlando. note that todlando is still awaiting your verdict on W1 review. PR and merge the doc branch, then deployah can handle 0.7.2 release and publishing.


your message to todlando was split into 9 parts, and the 9th was omitted. please resend the end


/send to doyle. legacy system, not spt-core


perri has surfaced `/spt:new-alarm` as a parity delta. is there no equivalent feature in spt-core?


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


as a reminder, perri is on a separate project (spt-claude-code) which is a harness adapter meant to be built entirely independently of spt-core source. if she has a question about impl, she's either not reading the public docs closely enough, there is a gap in the docs, or worst case: spt-core is missing a feature the spt-calude-code adapter needs for legacy spt parity. your job is to identify which issue it is with solid evidence, then provide guidance to perri and/or orchestrate docs/codebase amendments for spt-core.


record this session's learnings about building an SPT harness adapter in `SPT_HARNESS_ADAPTER_TIPS.md`. only record what applies to the existing public framework, and ignore any docs gaps which may have arisen. if there WERE any docs gaps, be sure to inform doyle if you haven't already.


some notes about the harness adapter tips: 1. "registry vs marketplace skeleton" is specific to this project. not every harness adapter dev will be publishing a plugin. 2. traceability is also unique to this project. traceable-reqs is not a public resource.


look over `SPT_HARNESS_ADAPTER_TIPS.md` and consider whether there's anything else to add, given this session's learnings about building an SPT harness adapter. only record what applies to the existing public framework, and ignore any docs gaps which may have arisen. if there WERE any docs gaps, be sure to inform doyle if you haven't already.


todlando thinks they're waiting on you. please reconcile


please observe the learnings over in `../spt-claude-code/SPT_HARNESS_ADAPTER_TIPS.md`. using your worktree (`../spt-core-doyle/`), i want you to extract and synthesize those learnings into public docs additions for `https://sabermage.github.io/spt-releases`. publish them when you're done. --- note that any details specific to `spt-claude-code` and its architecture should be generalized, so it's more useful to devs who build adapters for spt-core.


yes, run the publish step and cplugs commt+push now


if you encounter any roadblocks or finish this task, lean on doyle to resolve or greenlight the next task


installed the plugin. this is an agent's reaction to the setup skill, but two things: 1. the harness adapter surely isn't setup yet. its manifest needs installed via spt-core, and 2. aren't there supposed to be branching paths for the setup skill when spt-core is already installed? please confirm against CONTEXT.md/other relevant docs


installed the plugin. this is an agent's reaction to the setup skill, but two things: 1. the harness adapter surely isn't setup yet. its manifest needs installed via spt-core, and 2. aren't there supposed to be branching paths for the setup skill when spt-core is already installed? please confirm against CONTEXT.md/other relevant docs [Image #1]


also refer to the public spt-core docs: https://sabermage.github.io/spt-releases/harness-contract/integration-checklist.html


if there IS a docs gap, be sure to inform doyle


please refactor all the negative language/"not" framing in your docs additions. instead, frame everything positively in such a way that it states what needs to/"must" be done, rather than what must "not" be done.


please refactor all the negative language/"not" framing in your docs additions (and if any exists elsewhere in the docs, tackle that too). instead, frame everything positively in such a way that it states what needs to/"must" be done, rather than what must "not" be done.


please integrate this general practice into experimplate


proceed with B, which will be used to fulfill A thru dogfooding the plugin (i'll do it). this repo is published at https://github.com/SaberMage/spt-claude-code


`spt adapter add --github` is proving too limited for perri. she would need to publish a separate repo, as it exists today. i have proposals: A) we let it accept a **release branch** which the dev can then arrange in the way spt-core expects ("root = manifest.toml + strings/ + the two binaries") and strip out source code. B) we guide devs to publish tagged releases which contain everything in i.e. a `.zip` (or specially-filetyped archive i.e. `.spt`), or C) we let it accept a **subdir** so devs can put their release files there. what do you think? i'm leaning B). --- whatever we decide, i'd like you to quickly build it on your spt-core-doyle worktree, and publish ASAP


some followups: -update relevant internal docs (i.e. CONTEXT.md) -update relevant public docs i.e. mdBook -when the revised public docs are up, direct perri there to unblock her.


some followups: -update relevant internal docs (i.e. CONTEXT.md) -update relevant public docs i.e. mdBook -when the revised public docs are up, direct perri there to unblock her. -does this change also affect the [update] route for adapter manifests?


/btw what is the "copy-mode binary nuance"?


it's already on github. when you're ready, you can push and cut the release using `gh` CLI.


perri also seemed to be blocked on building out [update] for her manifest. any idea why? can we just extend the infra that runs `adapter add --release` to also support and `[update]` path which checks GH releases at that repo/downloads if there's a newer release?


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


write a JIT plan, then /commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


what is the absolute path of v0.4.4 `latest.beyondfw`? or has it not been packaged that way yet? please do so if not, and share the path with me


/grill-with-docs experimental concept proposal: can sauna create a virtual display driver that steamvr targets, such that sauna can keep ownership of the physical video stream/display interface at all times, but steamvr can hook into the virtual one anytime and sauna would instantly pipe steamvr's output to the physical interface when detected.


proceed with next steps. roll the following into v0.7.4 build: ## fix: windows startup launch creates a visible window instead of running in the background


check on w377. they don't appear to have done anything in the 1h since you launched them


perri also mentions she's waiting on you to address these? [Image #1]


as a reminder, perri is on a separate project (spt-claude-code) which is a harness adapter meant to be built entirely independently of spt-core source. if she has a question about impl, she's either not reading the public docs closely enough, there is a gap in the docs, or worst case: spt-core is missing a feature the spt-calude-code adapter needs for legacy spt parity. your job is to identify which issue it is with solid evidence, then provide guidance to perri and/or orchestrate docs/codebase amendments for spt-core.


why would perri use `listen --once`? that was designed for harnesses that don't have the `Monitor` tool or an equivalent. but claude code DOES have the monitor tool. so listen should be fired with Monitor, which then fires every time a message comes through without terminating. the `--once` flag terminates after each incoming message. please check CONTEXT.md and reframe your decision based on that. --- for reference, legacy spt starts live agents by the agent invoking `$LIVE start doyle` within the Monitor tool. `$OWL listen doyle` is for ready agents.


why in the world would the --manifest flag be needed if --adapter <name:profile> literally points to a manifest? that seems like poor design.


have todlando handle how-to-live while you proceed with docs. then have todlando handle the merging. orchestrate to full release.


"per-OS adapter.spt assets · LOCKED v1 setup {1..7}" please work on these until the v0.8.0 ping arrives. linux is the only other OS that matters right now


please vet ~\Documents\projects\spt-core-rel080\CHANGELOG.md -- deployah wrote it and it doesn't seem quite right. base your vet on CONTEXT.md and other relevant docs


note that a changelog audit is coming through from doyle


FWIW, per CONTEXT.md, the perch skeleton is/should be created on the SessionStart hook (via api seed). it's from that, that `spt api listen` should be able to bind the perch. please verify


as a reminder, perri is on a separate project (spt-claude-code) which is a harness adapter meant to be built entirely independently of spt-core source. if she has a question about impl, she's either not reading the public docs closely enough, there is a gap in the docs, or worst case: spt-core is missing a feature the spt-claude-code adapter needs for legacy spt parity. your job is to identify which issue it is with solid evidence, then provide guidance to perri and/or orchestrate docs/codebase amendments for spt-core. --- so where is the gap exactly? what do we patch to ensure future adapter devs don't run into this?


once you have a patch direction, /commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


proceed with next steps. JIT plan v0.8.1, delegate W/T planning and execution to todlando, and see it through to release publish. inform perri when it's done


FYI the perch skeleton is/should be created on the SessionStart hook.


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


doyle isn't offline, you are. /revive perri


/diagnose why this machine's daemon has stalled (as per a test agent who ran spt-claude-code's `/setup` command. they detected the stall) [Image #1]


orchestrate an immediate fix as v0.8.3. todlando executes, you gate, deployah signs+releases


regarding `spt-claude-code` v0.2.0: used `/sptc:live wall-a` and it's all wrong. [Image #2][Image #3] -session start hook should be doing most of this work (PID lookup, session UUID gen, etc.), so perri didn't wire it up right. must be a docs gap? at least partly -`spt api listen` should NOT require `--adapter` when it's being called from within a harness that has already run `spt api seed` (which should be configured to happen on SessionStart for all adapter profiles which support harness-hosted mode). this works precisely BECAUSE `spt api seed` passes `--pid` --> `spt api listen` resolves the perch stub/skeleton based on the parent PID. --- please confirm against CONTEXT.md, identify docs gaps and any code gaps, arrange fixes, then dispatch perri onto the `spt-claude-code` fixes needed to realize the intended behavior. reminder: goal is legacy spt parity. so the command to go live should look similar to legacy: `$LIVE start wall-a`-->`$SPT listen wall-a` --- note that the agent was also directed to check `how-to live`, which should not be necessary because `spt-claude-code` injects skill instructions on UserPromptSubmit. everything they need to know should be in that injection, not redirected to another tool use step. --- this command output is not user-friendly. needs updated. give the same user-friendly output treatment to any other commands with this sort of output like `OUTPUT_CODE:RESULT` [Image #4] --- note that most of this is feedback i need you to forward onto perri, but only after we reconcile all the gaps. --- /grill-with-docs one thing to consider/discuss: we need a more robust way to seed a perch for all adapters + adapter profiles for x harness binary. obviously a harness-hosted perch can't activate under every adapter/profile at once, so here's an example of how it might work: the freshest adapter profile (manifest mtime?) that matches the process binary (claude/css) should be the one the perch spawns under (spt api listen). if there is no matching PROFILE, then it falls back to the matching ADAPTER. if the user wants to change the default profile, they just `touch` the manifest (and there would be a shortcut CLI command to do the same). --> this way, the SessionStart hook for `spt-claude-code` could, among other responsibilities, simply call exactly `spt api seed --pid <same pid spt-core uses to look up the perch stub> --session-id <active session-id derived for that process>` with NO mandatory `--adapter <name:profile>`--> seeds for every adapter that matches that harness binary. then it's `spt api listen` which resolves the exact adapter/profile to spawn a perch under, as detailed above. thoughts or suggestions?


Q1: agree with most. i still think it makes sense to have the optional `--adapter` flag in `listen` (and `poll`, for ReadyAgents?), to facilitate adapter dev + iteration. -agree with resolution as read. accept the adapter-agnostic seed. ensure it covers ready agents as well.


agree. but when/how is the pointer created? on every adapter update/install?


sure. if we do this, our mdBook should guide adapter devs to call `spt adapter use` for each unique host binary they support. - agreed that registered_at_ms is the better fallback. -- lock it and proceed. spt-core code work goes to todlando


while those roll on, here's one for you to diagnose and fix in your own worktree.


while those roll on, here's one for you to diagnose and fix in your own worktree: i invoked bare `spt`-->create new-->claude-spt:ccs-->"wall-b". got this error: PS C:\Users\decid\Documents\projects> spt
ENDPOINT_RUN_FAIL:wall-b: broker spawn: spawn failed: failed to spawn a child under the pty: CreateProcessW `"C:\\nvm4w\\nodejs\\ccs\0"` in cwd `Some("C:\\Users\\decid\\Documents\\projects\0")` failed: %1 is not a valid Win32 application. (os error 193) --- note that none of the entries under "Pick existing" had a populated "project history" field, even wall-a.


while you're making changes adjacent to `spt endpoint run`, please add (or have todlando add) a color-coded `STATUS` entry as a newline in the right side description section for the 'pick existing' selector. it should match the status symbol beside the selected list item. gray: "OFFLINE" - green: "ONLINE" - blue: "ONLINE + CONTROLLED". -- also note that `wall-a` is a harness-hosted endpoint and only shows as ONLINE (green square), which would indicate it can be pty-controlled. but it can't. need a new amber status for "ONLINE - HARNESS ONLY"


while you're making changes adjacent to `spt endpoint run`, please add (or have todlando add) a color-coded `STATUS` entry as a newline at the top of the right side details section for the picker's 'pick existing' branch. it should match the status symbol beside the selected list item. gray: "OFFLINE" - green: "ONLINE" - blue: "ONLINE + CONTROLLED". -- also note that `wall-a` is a harness-hosted endpoint and only shows as ONLINE (green square), which would indicate it can be pty-controlled. but it can't. need a new amber status for "ONLINE - HARNESS ONLY"


in just a few words per point, what is v0.9.0?


merge PR \#20 and progress it to release


spt is now v0.9.0 but doesn't contain the `spt endpoint run` picker adjustments `ONLINE + ATTACHED`, `ONLINE - HARNESS ONLY` in the right section + new colors. did todlando forget to add them?


"ONLINE + CONTROLLED" was the better semantics. i just forgot. please ensure that goes in.


issue to flag to todlando for fix in the upcoming work: endpoint picker shows `Attach now` and `Start now` at the same time. those two options are mutually exclusive. [Image #5]


flagging a bug for todlando's latest work: the endpoint picker shows the opposite online status in "Subnet" category vs. "Local node" category [Image #6] [Image #7] -Subnet category shows the node's (SHA?) instead of its human-readable ID/name.


please check against CONTEXT.md and the original design. smells like an impl drift


STOP. KILLING. YOUR. LISTENER. AND. REVIVING. AS. A. READY. AGENT. JUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS AND MOVE ON. --> /revive perri


NO. I SAID **DO NOT** REVIVE AS A READY AGENT. you are a live agent. live agents use `/live` or `/revive`. so use `/revive perri`.


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


please clean up the test artifacts from your session: [Image #1] [Image #2]


please forward to todlando: `spt endpoint list` has broken formatting. [Image #9] -i started a new endpoint thru `spt endpoint run` as wall-b, and i see the pty in-terminal, but it isn't showing up in `spt endpoint list`


now the wall-b pty/terminal crashed: [Image #10]


ok, given your quick q, i found that it seems to've been perri's doing: [Image #11]


tried making wall-b live again using the `spt endpoint run` method. `spt send` claims they have no perch. is this an impl gap on perri's side? please root cause and orchestrate a fix [Image #12]


/diagnose -i started wall-b using `spt endpoint run` -issue 1: wall-b did not show up in `spt endpoint list` at first. it took 30+ seconds. there should be no delay for local detection -then, i sent a message to wall-b using `spt send`. -issue: it partially worked (pty text input), but instead of sending an enter keypress to submit the message it ended with a newline. so wall-b did not receive the message -then, i checked `spt endpoint run` -issue 3: in that view, wall-b shows as `project history: none`. it was started in the `projects` folder, so that should be its first project history entry. -issue 4: none of the agents in that list have a populated project history in `spt endpoint run`. this was supposedly fixed. -issue 5: v0.11.0 is not public! no release exists at SaberMage/spt-releases


re: 3 & 4. that RCA is invalid, because i'm talking about wall-b, a live agent i just spawned using `spt endpoint run`. that's NEW spt, not legacy. there are 4 agents listed under the picker, and none of them have a listed project. it SOUNDS like the root cause is that no communes or echo communes have run, so the new live agent's psyche hasn't had any reason to commit its tracked data. -HOWEVER, if true, that is a problematic way to identify the agent's project history. that means project history is only captured for live agents. ready agents would always have an unpopulated project history. --- issue 2, point 2: you're wrong. raw-typing EVENT into the harness' input box IS the correct method during agent idle. hook-injection only happens while the agent is busy (actively using tools, turn ongoing). in contrast, under harness-hosted topology, the idle messaging surface is the poll listener which runs in a tool like claude code's Monitor. -point 1: correct root cause, incorrect solution proposal. /grill-with-docs first, ground against CONTEXT.md. then let's talk: the reality is that different harnesses' TUIs will have different requirements for input the **precedes** and input that **follows** the message send payload. in fact, some harnesses in **spt-hosted endpoint mode** won't even need key injection for message delivery (i.e. Pi is likely flexible enough to feed in from a poll listener), while others like Claude Code and Codex most certainly will. so here's my proposal, and it'll requre another milestone of work: the idle-message-delivery API/adapter manifest defs should 1. always support the poll listener as the primary target for idle messages, 2. optionally define a **translation layer binary** which would be responsible for i. hosting the poll listener and subscribing to its output, and ii. forwarding the parsed output and any necessary keystrokes back to the broker pty. it should support arbitrary keystrokes as defined by the known translation layer binary. claude code, for example, would need the following sequence: ctrl+s (stash any pre-exsiting text input), delay 50ms, enter the message payload + \r, delay 50ms, ctrl+s (revive the stash). so the api would need to support this. this way, all idle messages surface at the poll listener, and it's up to the adapter dev to drive it to input injection if their particular endpoint needs it. thoughts, suggestions? --- your issues 3/4 diagnosis/action: incorrect, as explained above. -issue 1: yes, we need to merge local-unadvertised endpoints into the bare view. there should be no `--local` flag, it was not my design call. the simple `spt endpoint list` should always bake in the latest local list. this is also very important because `spt whoami` is an alias. as it is today, if an agent comes online and immediately used `spt whoami`, the output would omit their perch and it would cause chaos. --- issue 5: needed to force-clear the cache. all good. we need to discuss the rest before we action on it.


another bug: `spt endpoint run`-->pick existing-->wall-b-->attach results in a "PUMP_IPC_READER: spawned" + otherwise stalled pty. the pty for wall-b did not visually load.


another bug to triage: `spt endpoint run`-->pick existing-->wall-b-->attach results in a "PUMP_IPC_READER: spawned" + otherwise stalled pty. the pty for wall-b did not visually load.


Q1: I'm with you on (A). let's evolve it, hear me out: -adapter manifest can define the `[message-idle-translation-binary]` -if it does and that value is set, spt-core manages the tl binary's lifecycle. it comes up with the endpoint, terminates when the endpoint goes down. -spt-core prefers to send idle messages to the poll listener for that perch, IF it exists. --> this way, users can still choose to use poll listener during spt-hosted mode, while still taking advantage of pty control features like spt rc. -incidentally, by this design devs can choose to just always keep the perch's "idle ready" state active and use either the poll listener or the translation binary for *every* message delivery. --- note that the new bug (stalled blank PTY) is now happening for every new spt-hosted endpoint i try to start. did the brain get stuck in a broken state? --- another bug to triage: `spt endpoint run` picker still shows selections it shouldn't. `Start now` should only appear for offline endpoints. `Attach now` and `View now` should only appear for spt-hosted online endpoints. basically, the available commands need to actually mirror the capabilities of the endpoint in its current status. --- H1: your prediction around the bug was wrong. and i misspoke, the pty isn't actually empty. the terminal PTY just doens't populate at all after the message. process gets tied up with no visual: [Image #13] -H3: wall-a, wall-b, and wall-c all show as alive. only wall-c shows as "ready". -`spt endpoint stop c` changes ready to false, but alive stays true. another bug? shouldn't alive be false if they're offline? -you can check the broker log -agree with routing. run checks.


the broken cannot and should not log every pty effect. claude code, for example, is animating stuff and changing the pty constantly. those logs would become massive very quickly


the broker cannot and should not log every pty effect. claude code, for example, is animating stuff and changing the pty constantly. those logs would become massive very quickly


your root cause chain doesn't hold. i just did a fresh new wall-d and same result. immediately dead with the PUMP_IPC_READER message. -but the very first spot of wall-c, before the brain restarted, did work. until perri kill the brain and restarted it. maybe that's what wedged things? -was just going to try restarting the daemon and... new bug? see image [Image #14] -checked task mgr and there are 8 running psyches and lots of spt.exe. stuff is not terminating properly... especially alongside `spt daemon stop`. -manually terminated all, then did `spt daemon start`. immediately 3 `claude-spt-psyche.exe` processes started. why? -after the reset, i started a new fresh `wall-f`. initial attach worked. then closed its terminal tab, then ran `spt rc wall-f`. result: same bug as before the reset. -shouldn't the broker reject subscriptions to sessions it doesn't hold? --- diagnose thoroughly without me. when you have a conclusive report, rope in todlando to execute a fix, and see it through to the release publish


it's been 1.5 hours. i don't think it's going to conplete


/commune with immediate next stepsandbroadsummaryoftheproject'sstatus+endgoal.we'llresumeinthenextsession


it's been another 30 minutes. the test isn't working right


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


these sweeps were hanging for todlando, and he didn't change anything since he sent it to you. please check the duration


proceed. merge your work into todlando's worktree, then delegate wave 2 exec to him


todlando just operates in spt-core. your worktree is usually spt-core-doyle.


in no more than 10 words per point, what will be in v0.12.0?


i remember speccing out a "resume endpoint" feature. in what form does it exist today? check CONTEXT.md first


i've never seen the "Resume from history" option show up in the run picker, even for offline endpoints. why is that?


please -remove the placeholder adapter `claude-spt:deep` -add the flag `--dangerously skip permissions` to the harness invocation commands for `claude-spt` and `claude-spt:ccs`


yes, commit and push. --- does psyche have all the same tool restrictions here as it does in legacy spt (`claude_skill_owl` sibling project)?


/grill-with-docs but don't actually grill me, just record the relevant docs/doc additions for those latest changes. --- hold for a versioned release. more changes to come


ADRs over 0002 can be ignored/should be wiped from docs. those are probably from comms doyle shared from his project, which is unrelated to here


proceed to publish. be sure to inform perri once it lands, as she's waiting for it to be unblocked for her next steps. /trace your recent session logs if you don't remember what perri was trying to do/blocked on.


please audit the v0.12.0 release changelog for everything done between it and v0.11.0. it seems a little off.


the changelog also claims "Offline agents now appear in the spt endpoint run resume-from-history picker, so you can relaunch a previously-run agent instead of setting it up again." --- wasn't that already in place before 0.12.0?


just got done trying to test v0.12.0. it really seems like none of our fixes landed. here's what i encountered: [Pasted text #1 +10 lines]


--local WAS scoped for removal. /trace for the discussion.


you can ignore ccs, it's irrelevant for now. we just need to get it working with claude-spt first. --- what about the other issues i flagged? [Image #2] you're claiming it's just "attach pumps a phantom session", but after the bug happens, i can't even start a BRAND NEW endpoint session successfully. it's more than just endpoint lifecycle.


you might want to consider building a dummy harness adapter that just launches a simple program which stdouts. then you can more easily know when the broker is wedged vs. trying to launch an actual entire harness


does your recommended fix actualy address the core issue? i should be able to close the tab or window of any spt-hosted endpoint, and it should keep running + be re-attachable. this is a fundamental design of spt-core, and should be mirrored as such in CONTEXT.md.


so nothing is forgotten, please write the JIT plan containing each item we intend to address in the imminent sprint. should include the picker and lifecycle bugs i raised. --- the tagline of your invariant should avoid unnecessary negatives: "A view is independent from the endpoint." otherwise sounds good. --- proceed with the plan, have todlando execute. see it through to a v0.12.1 release. can clear the wedged machine.


note that you are running on legacy spt, so there's no issue modifying spt-core on this machine.


i'm noticing that `--help` CLI for SPT uses MD formatting syntax, but doesn't actually render MD any differently.Proceed with next steps


don't self-clear, just end turn when you need it and i'll clear+resume


FYI: don't self-clear, just end turn when you need it and i'll clear+resume


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


i'm noticing that `--help` CLI for SPT uses MD formatting syntax, but doesn't actually render MD any differently. is this something you can build on your worktree (spt-core-doyle) and combine into v0.12.1 before the release?


mistake. please run the AskUserQuestion again.


/clear when your context is getting full, do not use self-clear. use powershell to generate a system notif. i'll come clear and start your next session


will that apply to all branches of help? `spt endpoint --help`, `spt endpoint run --help`, `spt subnet --help` etc?


you send to todlando using the wrong spt. /send


proceed with the gate and ruling. the merge can come before this milestone's final CI


on L1: why can't `spt endpoint run` simply signal to the long-lived daemon process to spawn the endpoint job under itself, then attach when it's ready? then there's never any need to break away, because the job it belongs to is already independent from the terminal window.


/clear when your context is getting full, do not use self-clear. use powershell to generate a system notif. i'll come clear
and start your next session


C: has 282GB free. guessing todlando did a cargo clean.


it's been over 20min since the suite ran. status?


we don't literally need one bullet per commit. just make sure the changelog covers the affected user-facing surfaces. --- proceed through to full release


i did the testing and informed doyle. all good. --- are there any deferred tasks in this project?


we don't literally need one bullet per commit. just make sure the changelog covers the affected user-facing surfaces.


/grill-with-docs i noticed that the skills here are not well written. they're bloated with too much inessential information. please rewrite them all using the following references: -reference /write-a-skill for skill creation best practices -i edited `C:\Users\decid\Documents\projects\spt-claude-code\plugin\sptc\skills\live\SKILL.md` by hand. that should be the a rough reference for how the actual SKILL.md files in this project should look (can make mintor edits to it as you see fit). -i began editing the adapter skill file `C:\Users\decid\Documents\projects\spt-claude-code\adapter\strings\skills\live.md` to strip out some of the bloat, and committed the changers, but it's unfinished. more needs done here. -sibling project `claude_skill_owl` (legacy spt) has refined skill descs that generally work well for that project. use them as a basis for the rewrites here, e.g.: `C:\Users\decid\.claude\plugins\cache\cplugs\spt\1.11.25\skills\live\SKILL.md`


`spt how-to` output and `spt subnet --help` still show raw MD markers. please thoroughly check all other CLI output for places where it should account for this. [Image #1] [Image #2]


regression in v0.12.1: `spt daemon start` opens a new window. it needs to run in the background. i believe there's a REQ for this already? --- "so image 2 is a stale screenshot from before the auto-update" NO, it isn't. i literally took that screenshot AFTER the update.


more changes. some notes: -there was still too much information that a live agent simply doesn't need to know. for example, it doesn't need to know the inner workings of the plugin. see my changes to `skills/live.md`. -an excerpt from that skill, "On a session boundary, re-fire the same relay (`spt api listen <id>`) — the seed bridges the new session to the same perch." is simply not true. the relay persists across boundaries. -it was missing some style choices from legacy, like "« spt event »" for the Monitor name. --- please ground yourself in CONTEXT.md, observe the changes i made, and ripple them to other relevant docs.


more changes. some notes: -there was still too much information that a live agent simply doesn't need to know. for example, it doesn't need to know the inner workings of the plugin. see my changes to `skills/live.md`. -an excerpt from that skill, "On a session boundary, re-fire the same relay (`spt api listen <id>`) — the seed bridges the new session to the same perch." is simply not true. the relay persists across boundaries. -it was missing some style choices from legacy, like "« spt event »" for the Monitor name. --- note that we should not use skill body injection for `send,` `commune,` or `signoff`, so agents can know how to use them without the user invoking them directly. so their actual skills should have full-fat skill bodies. --- other skills should reference their `spt how-to` or `spt ... --help` equivalents so the agent can self-drive them, if they need to. --- please ground yourself in CONTEXT.md, observe the changes i made, and ripple similar + relevant changes to other skill docs.


when you think you know the "why" behind each of my edits, please share the reasons you perceive so we can confirm we're on the same page.


1. confirm 2. confirm 3. confirm 4. confirm 5. confirm. the point is to reduce perceived friction for the end user, who is waiting on the agent to finish their perch bringup. absolute minimum number of agent actions/agent-induced delays. 6. confirm 7. confirm 8. confirm, and it's already a detail carried with the message envelope via perch resolution 9. confirm. --- throughline: exactly. please carry these concepts into a revision for the skill bringup `docs/` doc. -your ripple: agree. -confirm on deleting the adapter files for those skills. --- proceed


/grill-with-docs another bug found, which refutes a supposed v0.12.1 fix: when i used `spt endpoint run` to create `wall-a`, the endpoint still doesn't have a project displayed in the picker. so the "current project" tab of the picker shows nothing. excerpt from the changelog: "...and a freshly-created agent appears under its own project right away." -in v0.12.2, let's update the picker to forego the first screen which only shows `Create new` and `Pick existing`. just go immediately to the `Pick existing` screen, which has the 'n' shortcut for jumping over to the `Create new` screen from there. -confirmed that the v0.12.1 `spt rc` resume and session liveness fixes. yay -new bug identified: after an incoming spt message injects input to the spt-hosted session, i lose all control over the PTY. all keypresses no longer register. -after closing that tab, wall-a permanently shows as `ONLINE + CONTROLLED`. -after closing that tab, the broker appears to be completely wedged. it's the old bug again. same IPC PUMP message + CLI stall, PTY never loads. -what is the "controlled by" string supposed to be? the subnet node? needs to be the node NAME, not its uuid: [Image #3] -"Resume from history" does not try to attach after resuming. it should. it also has no stdout. -the "Start new" feature also does not try to attach after resuming, and it has this output: [Image #4]. there's a rust syntax leak at `pid=`. the note about harness binding is unnecessary internals, should not be there. in general this output is too "process log" and not enough "user-friendly formatting". -while both of those picker features should auto-attach after starting the session, they should also feature an `h` shortcut to run the session headless. --- in case it's not obvious, this workload needs to become another proper milestone of root cause analysis, fix implementation, and new changes. --- in a previous conversation, we specced an update to how spt delivers messages to spt-hosted endpoints during idle, where the listener relay becomes the primary delivery surface, and adapters can choose to supply a translation binary. the detailed design should be in CONTEXT.md. if it isn't, please /trace to find it. let's implement that system now... or if it was already implemented, it got left out of the release changelog. when it's in, we need to direct perri to the (updated!) integration checklist and docs so she builds a proper translation binary for spt-claude-code. --- once you clear any gray areas with me, write a JIT plan for the milestone.


proceed with commit. then /commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. i'll clear + we'll resume in the next session


after you hand off to todlando, there's a new bug to /diagnose for v0.13.0. it kinda has parts to it: 1. PTY input in an rc session feels sluggish sometimes. it will stall for short periods of time, or sometimes not recover at all-->wedged bug. do these broker-hosted sessions with attached rc controllers have their own dedicated threads? maybe they should, if not? 2. using the backspace key in a PTY session always behaves like ctrl+backspace in claude code. it deletes the last entire word, instead of just one character at a time.


i followed those instructions to a T, but `Get-Content rckeys.log | Select-String RC_KEYS` outputs nothing


here's the test output: [Pasted text #5 +13 lines]

RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[20]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[74]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[68]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[65]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[72]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[65]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[20]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[79]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[6f]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[75]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[08]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[7f]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[02]
RC_KEYS n=1 bytes=[64]


here's the new log output. there's extra in there because i tried to `ctrl+B d`, but that doesn't work now after the VT flip. all keys are passed straight through to claude code, seemingly: [Pasted text #1 +43 lines]


worth noting: the claude code input after the VT flip felt "normal." backspace and all key inputs that made it through (before the inevitable wedge) all behaved as expected. we just didn't have the rc hotkeys


still experiencing wedging on the new build. i made sure to -stop the old daemon fully -start the new binary you pointed me to -use the new binary for every spt command


it's still running in the wedged state now.


another symptom, and i mentioned this before but it bears repeating now that there have been changes: PTY input feels sluggish while it does work. many-but not all-keypresses take hundreds of ms to appear, so the input stream feels choppy/stuttery. with enough input, the freezes get worse until the wedge finally happens.


on 1: you're wrong. i don't perceive a wedge "because it's controlled", i see the actual wwedge when i use the --take or --view flags.


it's been running for over 30min. status?


daemon stopped. btw, weren't these latest binaries supposed to be spawning daemons in the background? that was the `v0.12.2` "fix" which got rolled into v0.13.0. but every `daemon start` with these new binaries has generated a window.


it took more effort, but i got it to wedge, and it was still stuttering/lagging at times. fix ng. i still have the rc up in a tab.


it took more effort, but i got it to wedge, and it was still stuttering/lagging at times. fix ng. i still have the rc up in a tab. --- unless you didn't replace the `spt` binary on path?


typing smooth, no wedge! that's fixed. -but backspace is still messed up. every normaly backspace behaves like ctrl+backspace, and vice-versa.


no, the daemon was the right binary. that's why the terminal never wedged. i accidentally used the old binary for rc. --- now, having used the new binary for rc, new bug: normal backspace works right, but ctrl+backspace **behaves the same**. it doesn't delete whole words like it should.


/diagnose after i run `spt daemon stop`, the daemon window keeps respawning within ~5-20 seconds


1. fold in, yes. 2. backspace is good, smooth typing ok, picker mostly ok. NEW BUG TO FOLD A FIX FOR: terminal pty does not respond to special keys. arrow keys, home, end all do nothing.


1. fold in, yes. 2. backspace is good, smooth typing ok, picker mostly ok. NEW BUGS TO FOLD A FIX FOR: terminal pty does not respond to special keys. arrow keys, home, end all do nothing. -choosing "Start now" attempts to attach before the endpoint is online, so it always fails to attach -choosing "Resume" doesn't attempt to attach at all, but it should


found rc input gaps. blocking, need to address: -right-click doesn't paste (cmd/powershell) -ctrl+v doesn't paste (explicitly supported by claude code, should work if the translator is fully harness agnostic)


actually, attempting to paste fully wedges the broker. can no longer input after that, can no longer attach to new or existing endpoint sessions. -another bug: the Resume function isn't working. every time i use it, i end up with a blank and empty session, even if i know for a fact that the one i resumed had a conversation history. THIS bug could be a config issue in spt-claude-code. needs diagnosed either way.


the gap is definitely on both ends. there needs to be a [session.resume] template variant, because resumes are different than just setting session id, and will vary across templates. --- as a reminder, perri is on a separate project (spt-claude-code) which is a harness adapter meant to be built entirely independently of spt-core source. if it has an impl gap, she's either not reading the public docs closely enough, there is a gap in the docs, or worst case: spt-core is missing a feature the spt-claude-code adapter needs. your job is to identify which issue it is with solid evidence, then provide guidance to perri and/or orchestrate docs/codebase amendments for spt-core. --- check EVERY decision you make against CONTEXT.md. it is the design source of truth. --- here's an example of what a full-fat claude code resume command looks like: `claude -r <session_id> --remote-control <endpoint_id> --dangerously-skip-permissions`, and would need to be launched from the chosen resume-session's cwd. --- all working live agents right now are running on legacy spt, so everyone is still reachable. nothing torn down. -we can walk through the P0 design now


as we move toward P2, i'd also like to include an update to the picker screen "Resume from a prior session:" --> currently looks like `project @ YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SSZ (…7fb10)`. change to `project - HH:MM[AM|PM][timezone] MM-DD-YYYY` with timezone being the current local machine's timezone.


as we move toward P2, i'd also like to include an update to the picker screen "Resume from a prior session:" --> currently looks like `project @ YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SSZ (…7fb10)`. change to `project - HH:MM[AM|PM][timezone] MM-DD-YYYY (…7fb10)` with timezone being the current local machine's timezone.


as we move toward P2, i'd also like to include an update to the picker screen "Resume from a prior session:" --> currently looks like `project @ YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SSZ (…7fb10)`. change to `project - HH:MM[AM|PM] [timezone] MM-DD-YYYY (…7fb10)` with timezone being the current local machine's timezone.


note that your last two messages to todlando were missed because of an API error. please resend


please be sure to confirm todlando ever got P0 messages, unless you already have confirmation.


for this release, we need to ensure the following is in docs--especially the harness integration checklist: -idle message translation binary -session resume cmd --> both are adapter manifest seams. perri will need to be informed once it's published, so she can build those into spt-claude-code.


P0 + P1b passed, both with short and long multiline payloads. P1a immediately wedged. -resume rows and resume functionality both great. -daemon is still restarting within a few seconds of running `spt daemon stop`


confirmed that the wedge is the entire broker again


confirmed that the wedge is the entire broker again, not just the one endpoint session


confirmed that the ctrl+v wedge is the entire broker again, not just the one endpoint session


-new bug report: when resuming an old session, a new session still gets added to the resume history-->it's completely empty, a session i never actually used, which never actually was a running session. --- oh sorry, i tried a SMALLER ctrl+v before, but just now tried single-char ctrl+v and it does NOT wedge


ctrl+v wedge seems to happen starting around ~10 chars string length


done. you can find the logs in the parent folder (please move/delete them when done) --- what's running: i've been launching a single spt-claude-code instance for testing. that's pretty much it.


both wedged. i also did single-char ctrl+v (non-wedging) in both, before the long-string ctrl+v. so if you don't see it at all, it isn't wired right.


-new bug identified: scroll events do not translate. can't scroll the claude code PTY


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal, including what's needed for perri handoff after v0.13.0 publish. we'll resume in the next session


/btw what happens if a user tries to paste a file into an `spt rc` session?


1, 2, and 4 ok. 3 --> scrolling still does nothing. notably, the scrollbar is on windows terminal. so scrolling needs to reach the parent app, seemingly.


ok, shift+scroll does work. good enough for now. as a follow-up (post-v0.13.0), can we try offering an adapter-manifest-enabled VT mode?


it's not "nothing pending." what comes next per the context you received at session start?


is there any way we can publish the v0.13.0 docs ahead of its release, so perri can start building for it?


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


note that v0.12.1 never happened, and its changes ended up rolled into v0.13.0


actually that's my mistake. 12.1 did publish, 12.2 did not.


/grill-me over the v0.13.0 changelog. but ideally no grilling needed -- some of the lines aren't quite right. please check them against the design (CONTEXT.md) and the code, then let's go point-by-point with your suggested changes.


some points: -idle message delivery already happened through the relay poll, for harness-hosted endpoints. -for spt-hosted endpoints, it would default to PTY injection. now, all idle message delivery goes through the relay poll -as such, the "idle message translation binary" concept was introduced, specifically for spt-hosted endpoints. spt brings up the endpoint adapter's IMTB alongside the endpoint. the IMTB is responsible for running the relay poll and handling its incoming messages. it can optionally output keypresses, delays, and string injection for spt-core to run against the endpoint's PTY. --- "agents can resume into their previous session" isn't an addition, but a fix. the resume option was there before, but it always started a new session. should be more like "Agent endpoints track session history and offer explicit session resume via `spt endpoint run`." it also talks about "native-resume role", which is a bit semantically confusing. "The adapter manifest can now declare a `[session.resume]` command so [...]" --- "Pasting or typing into a busy agent no longer [...]" is also confusing. should be more like "Pasting or typing into an spt-hosted endpoint no longer [...]"


some points: -idle message delivery already happened through the relay poll, for harness-hosted endpoints. -for spt-hosted endpoints, it would default to PTY injection. now, all idle message delivery goes through the relay poll -as such, the "idle message translation binary" concept was introduced, specifically for spt-hosted endpoints. spt brings up the endpoint adapter's IMTB alongside the endpoint. the IMTB is responsible for running the relay poll and handling its incoming messages. it can optionally output keypresses, delays, and string injection for spt-core to run against the endpoint's PTY. --- "agents can resume into their previous session" isn't an addition, but a fix. the resume option was there before, but it always started a new session. should be more like "Agent endpoints track session history and offer explicit session resume via `spt endpoint run`." it also talks about "native-resume role", which is a bit semantically confusing. "The adapter manifest can now declare a `[session.resume]` command so [...]" --- "Pasting or typing into a busy agent no longer [...]" is also confusing. should be more like "Pasting or typing into an SPT-hosted endpoint no longer [...]" -"viewers survive a high-output agent" should be "viewers survive a high-output terminal" --- otherwise agree with your suggestions


/grill-with-docs changes for v0.13.2: [Pasted text #2 +7 lines]

## change: `.spt` adapter packages can pack all platforms
- the issue: when an adapter manifest chooses to update via GH releases, SPT looks for a single `adapter.spt` release artifact. this is problematic for multi-OS adapters, because the current `.spt` archive format only accounts for one OS at a time/per-archive.
- proposal: enable adapter updates/installers to package linux, windows, and any future supported platforms all inside the .spt file.
  - larger adapters may prefer to split by platform (and they still can, with this change), but this will be a helpful feature for adapters with a smaller filesize + better installation UX

+ also, `spt adapter update` should only replace files that have a different CRC vs. the existing ones
++ also, `spt adapter update` must stop the adapter's binaries (IMTB, psyche, etc.) before it updates them, then restart them. this way, endpoints running a given adapter can update live without restarting the whole endpoint


additional note: with v0.13.2, `spt adapter add --release User/repo` should be able to work without the `--asset` flag, just pulling down the `adapter.spt.tar` file


additional note: with v0.13.2, `spt adapter add --release User/repo` should be able to work without the `--asset` flag, just pulling down the `adapter.spt.tar` (note new name scheme) file


Q1: agree with (A). re: gzip-->maybe rescind the .tar extension add. simpler if we stick to `adapter.spt` and let devs use base tar or gzipped as they please, still single potential release asset.


when we published v0.13.1, did we also update gh pages docs to cover translate-proof? i'd imagine we want it in the harness integration checklist + maybe one other place? --- don't worry about A.a/.b back/fwd compat, as there is no major userbase yet. the min version primative might be useful to have for the future. -dedicated v0.13.2 branch -proceed with ADR --- Q2: -you say this, but the last time perri and i tried to update spt-claude-code while an endpoint was running, we ran into an update error because of some locked binary that couldn't be overwritten with the update files. -question: 1. does spt-core keep an in-memory copy of the adapter manifest for running endpoints? and 2. if so, does it refresh that in-memory copy when the adapter updates? if 1-yes and 2-no, 2 should be yes-->ensures that the adapter binaries and adapter manifest are on the "same page."


-the locked binary issue i hit with perri was before the translation binary concept existed, fwiw. -Q2: agree -Q3: agree with (A). spt's objective has always been to enable on-the-fly updates. this applies to spt-core's brain today, needs to apply to adapters. --- another need: can we have, for both manifests and `spt adapter add`, a "gh-cli" update method? it would be the go-to option for pulling adapters down from private repos, since the `gh` CLI can be pre-authorized. or do you have any better suggestions for the private-repo-adapter path?


1. please do 2. please merge in 0023 --- write the JIT for v0.13.2, then /commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


run the build. todlando executes, you gate, deployah eventually publishes. see it through to release


uhh, todlando is another live agent. need to /send to dispatch them


in v0.13.2, please add: -`spt adapter version <adapter name>` as an alias for `spt adapter get-string <adapter name> version` -a docs "semi-mandate"/strong encouragement for adapter devs to populate this string and keep it up to date (esp. in the integration checklist doc)


oh, if there's already `[adapter].version`, then it should just surface that.


please write a JIT plan for v0.14.0 (the v0.13.2 followup we grilled)


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


also, todlando seems to have no reference for what W6 originally was. please update him. if you don't remember, /trace for it


while we wait for deployah to release, let's get todlando started on v0.14.0 (post-v0.13.2 work). a JIT plan and a dedicated branch already exist.


doyle and you are running on legacy spt. `$OWL send doyle`


go ahead and apply (C) to the existing release


as a reminder, perri is on a separate project (spt-claude-code) which is a harness adapter meant to be built entirely independently of spt-core source. if she has a question about impl, she's either not reading the public docs closely enough, there is a gap in the docs, or worst case: spt-core is missing a feature the spt-claude-code adapter needs for legacy spt parity. your job is to identify which issue it is with solid evidence, then provide guidance to perri and/or orchestrate docs/codebase amendments for spt-core. --- check EVERY decision you make against CONTEXT.md. it is the design source of truth.


when you reach a good stopping point, /commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


2. merge to main. 1. ensure the gh pages docs are up to date with the latest changes. then proceed with the release 3. can tackle that after v0.14.0 is published --- be sure to inform perri when it's published, so she can revert her perch-binding workaround (it's hardcoded to SPT_DEV on this machine)


why is there CI on the PR, and then CI again for deployah? seems like a waste of time


the last ci you ran didn't inform you when it finished. so set a /new-alarm for the completion ETA


the last ci you ran didn't inform you when it finished. i had to poke you. so set a /new-alarm for the completion ETA


the revert is moot, must've been my misremembrance. -/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume with the fast-follows in the next session


can ignore that instruction, it was simply my misremembrance. /commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


proceed with v0.14 fast-follows. note that live agent perches on this machine (including yours) are currently legacy spt: use `$OWL` and `$LIVE` for spt features, not `spt`.


v0.14.0 is missing a feature that was specced for it: a new home-subnet picker for the endpoint creation flow during bare `spt endpoint run`. there should be details about it in CONTEXT.md and the original v0.14.0 JIT plan. if you can't find it, it was definitely discussed previously. you may need to /trace for it under `.claude/` --- please revive the plan and roll the build into todlando's v0.14.1 work.


i'm pretty sure the session was running under the .claude profile during the grill, rather than .ccs --- note that the "post-TUI Y/n confirm" is still useful for CLI-only endpoint bringup, so it should remain. just shouldn't apply to the ratatui picker flow.


quick note about the picker spec: hopefully you picked this up, but there are two depths of MRU: per-node, and per-project. if a project has no MRU history, it should solely use the per-node MRU. if the project has MRU history, it should fill from that first, then backfill the remaining subnet(s) from the per-node MRU. --- /diagnose i can't attach to any endpoint. this is my first time trying it since before v0.13.0, because endpoint bind was broken during that release. [Image #1]


just discovered: `\r` is not sufficient for a claude code message submission. so i need you to revamp the translation binary output to remove `\r` at the end of the message, and insert an enter keypress after it instead. --- once that change is in, publish a new release.


unfortunately, that did not work. still inserts a newline. verified the adapter version, even having stopped and restarted the spt daemon. --- /diagnose please troubleshoot using the tools at your disposal: -running endpoint `call-a` -call-a's session `14efb80c...` transcript -`spt send` command -spt's ability to live-reload adapter binaries using `spt adapter update`


other tools available to you: -screen-timelapse mcp to see the actual state of call-a's window -`spt adapter add` for adding temp diagnostic adapters -can ask doyle for any code-level facts you need


other tools available to you: -screen-timelapse mcp to see the actual state of call-a's window -`spt adapter add` for adding temp diagnostic adapters -can ask doyle (using legacy spt `$OWL send`) for any code-level facts you need


i'm noticing that ctrl+s isn't working, either. this may be a functionality gap that needs fixed in spt-core.


i'm noticing that ctrl+s isn't working, either. this may be a functionality gap that needs fixed in spt-core (doyle's court)


i owe you a response on the attach bug. **pretty sure the broker was just wedged from an old spt-core rev.** since i fully restarted the daemon, everything has been working well


i owe you a response on the attach bug. **pretty sure the broker was just wedged from an old spt-core rev.** since i fully restarted the daemon (your rec), everything has been working well


you didn't successfully send that message to perri. you need to omit `--reply-to`.


agents on this machine run on legacy spt. `$OWL send`


fwiw, it hasn't broken `spt rc` operator input. i am able to press the enter key and submit messages in an spt-hosted endpoint session


i am also able to use `ctrl+S`, for example. but that is broken for the spt-claude-code message-idle-translation-binary


`ctrl+s after a "paste" likewise no-ops.` --> ctrl+s is the first operation the MITB sends. ask perri for the exact sequence so you can confirm the expected behavior against code


"ctrl+s-first failing is likely just a no-op (nothing to stash on an empty box)" literally not true. we tested it, i was there. the contents of the input box did not stash when the MITB payload comes through. no stash, no submit, but all the text inputs. are you sure the i.e. `{"key":"ctrl+s"}` parser is working as intended?


focus reporting is an interesting path too. worth exploring, unless perri is already on it.


i thought the introduction of the translation binary fully depricated the old raw inject path? the message delivery path should be either the relay poll or the translation binary, no inbetween.


/commune with immediate next steps as recommended and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


proceed with v0.14.3 work. see it through to release.


/grill-with-docs [Pasted text #2 +6 lines]

## feature: new message types
the `spt send --deferred` message type strictly spools and arrives via poll (i.e. a PreToolUse-like hook event, for CC). need two adjacent forms:
- `--idle-only` --> a message that doesn't deliver until the agent is idle and can be re-awoken
  - change `--deferred` to `--active-only` for congruent semantics. (fyi: no breakage risk for end users. i am the only end user right now)
- `--native-only` --> a message that is guaranteed to be immediately delivered to the endpoint's `message-idle-translation-binary`, regardless of idle state
**^^^ those 3 are mutually exclusive**
plus: `--custom [<xml attributes json>]` --> not a message type, but enables messages to carry custom xml attributes that the receiving endpoint can parse (via its adapter's own hooks impl and/or translation binary)


1. "A message could coherently be both idle-gated and delivered-via-native-channel" --> if an spt-hosted endpoint has a native binary, this would be **the default behavior** when using `--idle-only`. no additional `--native`-like flag needed. so the point is moot. although, a combination of `--native-only` and `--active-only` could make sense. 2. i concede your point. to that end, the flag would make more sense as `--prefer-native`, where it falls back to standard delivery methods when there is no running translation binary. then there could be an adjacent `--force-native`, where the message can ONLY be admitted to a translation binary.


re: `--idle-only` -- also delivered immediately if the agent is already idle. -default: just exactly what it does today. when agent is active, spools to be polled by hooks. when agent is idle or goes idle before spool is polled by a hook, delivers immediately via translation binary (spt-hosted only) OR, if there isn't one, via relay poll (spt-hosted or harness-hosted) OR, if that isn't running either, just spools. this is how it functions today, and doesn't change. --- 1. agree 2. that's not true if you're strictly targeting the translation binary. translation binary doesn't receive the message while agent is active. but i agree that there's no need for `--now` or `--immediate` flags. `--x-native` flags cover it.


that's a massive parity gap vs. legacy SPT, and needs to be built alongside these new messaging features as v0.15.0 immediately after this grill session (once v0.14.3 is handed off to deployah). activity-gated message delivery should have been detailed both in CONTEXT.md and in the roadmap. --- reading B is mostly correct. `--force-native` + `--active-only` is coherent because it means "deliver via the binary during activity ONLY, never during idle. wait until activity if it arrives during idle". -so "native" flags effectively just mean to prefer (or mandate) that the message never hits any delivery method other than the binary. they can combine with `--idle-only` or `--active-only` to restrict the accepted delivery window. --- your Q: (c), as "force", for the given message, means spt should not accept nor perform any other delivery method than the binary. so the message simply "evaporates" if the endpoint's binary is offline


2. you're conflating "binary offline" with "endpoint idle". the binary can be online while the endpoint is idle (a.k.a. *not active*). proposal: if the binary is **online** when `--force-native --active-only`, that's when it waits to be delivered. if the binary ISN'T online, and if a new `--ephemeral` flag is set, then the (b)+(c) check evaporates the message. that last sentence applies to any `send --force-native --ephemeral`. without the `--ephemeral`, the `send --force-native` waits for the binary to pick it up during the intended delivery window, regardless of the binary's running status. --- agree with retiring "type".


agree with your points. let's weigh it against an alternative concept: `--json-payload` which just stores a custom block of json in the message's `json=""` attribute. this might be easier/more straightforward for adapter devs to parse. would it be problematic for us? --- yes, whatever we decide on would be available to any sender.


doyle is available. everyone's on legacy spt: `$OWL send`


/grill-with-docs new features: 1. for the translation binary output, color the entire `<EVENT ...>...</EVENT>` block's text cyan, including the tags themselves. to help the user visually distinguish it. 2. [Pasted text #2 +4 lines]

## agent feature: checkpoint communes
- agent drops their commune with a trigger code anywhere inside, i.e. `!!checkpoint!!`
- translation binary detects the session's commune file, detects the trigger code within, and fires the clear + wake macro:
  - ctrl+s, 50ms, "/clear", 50ms, enter, 500ms, "Proceed with next steps" (text color=cyan), enter, commit.
- as per `claude_skill_owl`/legacy SPT parity, the SessionStart hook supplies the new post-clear session's additionalContext with the commune file's content.


please note the following observed bug: spt-hosted endpoints spawn their translation binaries in a dedicated window. they should be spawned fully backgrounded, never visible.


if you haven't yet, please write the entire v0.15.0 JIT plan


open questions: 1. spt-core's role is wake via the relay poll. 2&3. you choose using best judgment


fine to commit and kick off v0.15.0 now.


residual risk: not an issue. `/clear` and other message submissions submission simply enqueue if the agent is mid-turn. -"claude-spt currently polls on UserPromptSubmit, not PreToolUse" IMPORTANT: i'm flagging another major legacy spt parity gap here. legacy spt polls for messages and injects them on PreToolUse. this is 50% of the live agent reachability formula, and the main way live agents receive messages while they're mid-turn. -additionally, i hope claude-spt has working perches for subagents. that's another important legacy parity point. --- feature 2: note that the clear+wake macro needs to be preceded with `ctrl+s`, `50ms`. or else it could get appended to lingering user input. --- check with doyle on the information you requested. --- one more feature i want to added: extension of the `!!checkpoint!!` trigger code-->if there are two, the message between them gets forwarded to the agent's next session *in place of* "Proceed with next steps". so i.e. agent commune contains `!!checkpoint!! Review the W1 JIT plan at (dir) and proceed with execution. !!checkpoint!!` --> the self-sent message also contains "Review the W1 JIT plan at (dir) and proceed with execution." alongside the sentinel, parseable in a straightforward way --> translation binary picks it up, parses out the checkpoint message, and injects it after the 500ms delay.


perri claims you told her: "Commune ingest is pulse-driven, not LLM-synthesized." there's no way that's true. this is part of the legacy spt parity: when a live agent drops `<id>-commune.md` or `<id>-signoff.md`, the file is fed to psyche, who then synthesizes it into a `projects/<project name>/<id>.md` and an `agents/<id>/live_context.md`. this is not automatable without LLM involvement. please verify against CONTEXT.md and the code.


i'm clarifying with doyle. real quick, what api surface is used to populate SessionStart commune injection?


real quick, what api surface is used to populate SessionStart commune injection? it may already pack in the commune file while it isn't fully ingested. please confirm with doyle.


because spt-core relocates the raw file drop as soon as it finds it, perri's injection build would be racing with core. so this should instead be a feature (and is a parity gap) of spt-core --> while the file drop is not yet synthesized into the Self's durable context by the Psyche, `psyche-download` should append the raw file drop to the end of its output. please see `claude_skill_owl` (legacy SPT) and its SessionStart hook code to inform the parity precedent. --- add this as a parity wave to the v0.15.0 workload.


in core's case, it shouldn't just append it raw while the drop is still on disk, but anytime before the psyche finishes synthesizing the drop into durable context files.


no, perri's session is running on legacy SPT, so <psyche-context> came from the SessionStart hook of the sister project.


"{psyche_context}" is very different from what we would want to surface in `spt api psyche-download`, so double-check CONTEXT.md and legacy spt to ensure parity is clean beyond just the name of the cli command.


agree with your 2-tier proposal + scoping rec


no, this session is running on legacy SPT, so <psyche-context> came from the SessionStart hook of the sister project. -


please update the written plans with the locked tier 1 details so they aren't lost + so todlando doesn't miss impl


note that we should be sure to update public-facing docs i.e. github pages (especially integration checklist) to include direction around any of the features added in v0.15.0


eli5 the seedmap finding. short and sweet. no code specifics.


log the 3 findings and mint the req stubs now. then /commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


note that the sentinel for the self-sent '/clear' message can leverage the new `spt send --json-payload` feature. you can message doyle for more details


/commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


/grill-with-docs -i want to make it so the user can keep all of `spt-claude-code` updated using only `spt adapter update claude-spt`. how would you suggest we achieve this? -this adapter has too many names. it's `spt-claude-code` at the repo, `sptc` at the plugin, and `claude-spt` for the adapter. we need to come up with a unification plan.


btw, we never grilled the whole "consolidate the 4 binary exports into 1 with subcommands" suggestion. please do.


please write a JIT plan for this next milestone (what can be done before doyle implements). i'll have doyle rolling the spt-core build alongside you. then /commune with immediate next steps and broad summary of the project's status + end goal. we'll resume in the next session


/grill-with-docs new spt-core features and changes: -`../spt-claude-code/UPDATE-NAMING-DOYLE-ASKS.md` -remove the flag `--reply-to` from `spt send`. it's nothing more than a semantic nicety that confuses agents. -[Pasted text #1 +6 lines] -## feature: `--json` flag for all status queries -## change/fix: `spt endpoint run` with no endpoints
if the user's subnet (or if no subnet, node) has no endpoints, `spt`/`spt endpoint run` should put them directly into the new endpoint creation flow. today, it puts them in the existing endpoint picker. -## feature: top-right-corner identity marker
for `spt rc`'s terminal view, overlay onto the PTY a rounded-rectangle frame in the top right corner that contains exactly: `SUBNET_NAME : ENDPOINT_ID @ NODE_NAME`, so the user can always grok which endpoint they are controlling.

## feature: `spt endpoint digest --last 1 --json`
- `--last <count>` feature enables the caller to limit the number of retrieved digest entries.
  - example: during idle/on CC Stop hook, `--last 1` surfaces the agent's latest turn-end output
- `--json` formats each digest entry within a json list. each list item contains a line number
- `--after <line>` ensures all digest entries returned take place after the given line number

primary use case: enable adapters to process their endpoint's output on turn end


please add to the JIT: in the adapter manifest, set `--remote-control <id>` for endpoint startup, too. right now i think it only sets on resume.


+ add to both the actual session name set. so that's the `-n <id>` flag


among the resolvable [session.*] keys, is the current node name available? it would be ideal if both -n and --remote-control used i.e. `{id}@{node}`, to help the user distinguish them more clearly.


the substitution keys list is at https://sabermage.github.io/spt-releases/harness-contract/manifest.html#substitution-keys -node isn't on there, so i'll raise it with doyle in our ongoing conversation.


Q1: to avoid running two binaries for every hook call, i'd like to suggest an alternative collection of changes: 1. enable adapter `[strings]` to employ the same substitution keys currently available to i.e. the `[session.*]` entries, and 2. add substitution key `{adapter_dir}`, which resolves to the location the adapter is installed at. this way, adapter devs can put the dynamic strings they need in their manifest `[strings]`, then use `spt adapter get-string` to do things like fetch the adapter-->resolve their own custom binary that was packed+installed with the binary, using that to run their own hook ops. -thoughts? suggestions?


"The wrapper still spawns spt adapter get-string" -- yes, but in the case of claude code it only needs to do it once per session (to define an env var), rather than once per hook run. basically as you suggested. -agree with scoped sub keys. --- confirm both, agree with recs.


given there are no other adapters developed, we can deprecate `path`. we just need to make sure we update the public-facing docs, incl. gh pages/integration checklist.


proceed. after U5, please confirm the following: ensure PreToolUse message polling + injection was built. it's not in the release notes, but we definitely specced and scoped it before the last release build. /trace for it if necessary.


1. agree 2. agree 3. suggestion: let it be a sentinel OR dynamic update message via stdout, where the stdout message, if there is one, supercedes `[update.message]`. if the sentinel is there instead of any custom message, that's when `[update.message]` fires. -another suggestion: pass in `adapter_applied` via stdin, publish the seam so the `[update.post]` binary can choose to formulate its output based on that result 4. agree -


yes, build it now. also need to confirm that `spt api state` is being called on UserPromptSubmit (busy) and Stop (idle) hooks, as PreToolUse polling won't work properly if the endpoint state isn't set to busy during a turn.


also check against https://sabermage.github.io/spt-releases/harness-contract/integration-checklist.html for the intended state change shapes


-include `profile_name` in the stdin JSON line. -agree with all


are there any claude code hooks which fire on a tool event, like when the Monitor tool reports? that's another transition where `api state busy` should be applied, because it starts a new agent turn -alternatively, if that hook doesn't exist, then PreToolUse should apply the busy state too, to help cover our bases. unless you can think of a better way? -


question: will digests surface a partial turn as it's being built? i.e. agent is busy and has output some text during it, but hasn't ended the turn yet. -agree with recs --- 1. rec ok 2. rec ok 3. yes, digest's agent text is enough.


for the public-facing digest docs--which likely includes the integration checklist--we should advise that any adapter's `digest extractor` or `api digest-entry` disambiguates user-input thoroughly. for example, "spt messages from the user" would be easy to accidentally treat as non-turn-boundaries, but should ideally be deemed equivalent to normal user-input. else sessions driven by user messaging (and not direct PTY entry) would contain very few turns that are very long. --- Q6: agree on all recs.


let's do 1 and 2 for now. you might be able to tackle the repo rename yourself using `gh` cli.